Kyogre

Kyogre Raid Boss Guide: Counters and Strategies

Kyogre is one of the best Pokémon in the game from an offensive point of view. With a massive attack stat of 270 and great bulk, Kyogre can be considered as one of the best additions to your offensive lineup. Furthermore, only water, grass and dragon type Pokémon resist water type attacks. Thus, Kyogre can also be effectively used as a TOP-Tier generalist.

However, the limiting factor with Kyogre is the amount of rare candies needed to power it up. As a legendary Pokémon, the only way of obtaining Kyogre candies is by raiding or by walking it as a buddy, and walking 20KM just to get a single Kyogre candy seems to be too much. If you’re lucky enough to catch a weather-boosted Kyogre, you can keep it in your collection as its power (even at level 25) won’t disappoint you and it has the potential to even outperform other higher level relevant water types in the game.

Pokémon Stats Max CP
ATK DEF STA
Kyogre Water 270 251 182 4074

Kyogre overview

Kyogre is the Water type king in the metagame, and that does not seem likely to change in the near future. When Gyarados finally had its time to shine after getting a double water type moveset, Kyogre was released and Gyarados’ reign came to an end. In fact, Kyogre is so powerful that it outperforms a level 40 Gyarados (DPS-wise) at level 27, and a level 40 Vaporeon at level 21. This simple comparison is perfect to illustrate Kyogre’s dominance in the current Water type metagame, as it outperforms by far its main non-legendary competitors.

Its main strengths are:

  • It is the absolute king of the Water type metagame. Furthermore, Kyogre is able to learn Waterfall and Hydro Pump, a great water type moveset to pair up with its impressive stats
  • Some offensive-oriented Pokémon have great attack stats but questionable bulk. Well, that’s not the case with Kyogre, as it has a great defense stat of 251 and a decent stamina stat of 182, allowing it to tank some hits before fainting
  • It only has two weaknesses, grass and electric type moves. If you think that countering it will be a piece of cake you might be wrong, as it also has access to Blizzard, a powerful one-bar ice type move that deals super effective (but not STAB) damage to plenty of its main counters (Zapdos, Exeggutor, Venusaur, Sceptile, …)
  • It will have the highest Max CP for a water type Pokémon. Furthermore, the only non-released water type Pokémon that has a higher attack stat than Kyogre, which is Palkia (a Generation 4 Pokémon) with an attack stat of 280, is not able to learn any water type fast move currently available in the game. Thus, investing in Kyogre certainly looks like a safe bet

However, its main weaknesses should be mentioned too:

  • Raikou, the best Electric type Pokémon in the game, can counter a Kyogre Raid Boss effectively, as it doesn’t take super effective damage from any of its charge moves. At this point, you probably have a Raikou in your offensive lineup against Kyogre, but if you don’t, now you have a good reason to power one up. Alolan Exeggutor is an outstanding counter too against any of its charge moves but Blizzard
  • Quite costly to power up, as Kyogre candies are not easy to obtain, and you can only catch it either at level 20 or at level 25 (if weather-boosted)
  • Kyogre is so powerful that it’s quite hard to find more weaknesses. One of the only situations where Gyarados (its non-legendary alternative) could be a bit more viable as a raid attacker is against Mud Shot/Solar Beam Groudon, as Kyogre will take super effective damage from Solar Beam and neutral damage from Mud Shot whereas Gyarados will take neutral damage from Solar Beam (thanks to its water/flying typing) and double resist incoming Mud Shots

Best Kyogre movesets

 Role Quick move Charge move
Gym offense Waterfall Water Hydro Pump Water
Gym defense (speculative) Waterfall Water Hydro Pump Water
PvP (speculative) Waterfall Water Hydro Pump Water or Blizzard Ice

Best Kyogre moves in Pokémon GO

Kyogre can be used to perform different roles, despite having just a single fast move and three charge moves. The following Table compares the cycle DPS (with STAB) of every single moveset that Kyogre is able to learn. Keep in mind that some movesets might not top the DPS charts but could be good to use in certain scenarios!

Kyogre moves in Pokemon GO
Fast Move Charge Move Cycle DPS (STAB)
Waterfall Water Hydro Pump Water 21.64
Waterfall Water Blizzard Ice 20.44
Waterfall Water Thunder Electric 19.54

*Keep in mind that STAB cycle DPS calculations just compare the different movesets and they are not Pokémon-specific

  • Waterfall and Hydro Pump is the moveset you’re looking for if you want to use Kyogre as a Water type attacker. In general terms, it is its best moveset.
  • Thunder Kyogre might seem like a bad option, but it is a decent counter to Blizzard Kyogre, if you face one while raiding. Unless you want to use Kyogre for some similar purpose, Thunder is its worst charge move in terms of DPS.
  • Right before Kyogre was released, Niantic removed Dragon Tail from its movepool, which is quite unfortunate as pairing it up with Blizzard could’ve made Kyogre a dragon slayer.

Kyogre Counters in Pokémon GO

Supreme Counters

 Pokémon Fast move Charge move
Raikou Electric Thunder Shock Electric Wild Charge Electric
Exeggutor Grass Dragon (Alola) Bullet Seed Grass Solar Beam Grass
Venusaur Grass Poison Vine Whip Grass Frenzy Plant* Grass
Sceptile Grass Bullet Seed Grass Leaf Blade Grass

* Legacy move

Raikou is its best raid counter in the game. With a great attack stat and one of the best offensive-oriented movesets in the game, Raikou is a Pokémon you should try to add to your offensive lineup as soon as possible if you want to effectively counter Kyogre. It does not take super effective damage from any of Kyogre’s moves, which makes it its best overall counter. Against Thunder/Hydro Pump Kyogre, other Pokémon might have higher TDO but that’s just because they are able to resist those moves, unlike Raikou. Against Blizzard Kyogre, though, Raikou has no rival, and that’s why it’s considered its best overall counter.

Alolan-Exeggutor is probably the best counter against non-Blizzard Kyogre, unless you want to do a time attack. Its grass and dragon typing makes it double resist every single move Kyogre has except for Blizzard, which destroys it completely as it deals double super effective damage against it. If you were able to catch a good IV/high level Alolan Exeggutor, congratulations, as you have a great counter against Kyogre. Don’t forget to teach it Bullet Seed and Solar Beam, and avoid using dragon type moves that won’t deal super effective damage. Kantonian Exeggutor works too, but it doesn’t double resist Hydro Pump and Thunder, which makes it a bit worse, but still a great counter.

Venusaur is also a great counter against non-Blizzard Kyogre. It might not have a TOP-Tier attack stat, but Vine Whip and Frenzy Plant is an excellent moveset to use against Kyogre.

Sceptile is a little bit behind, but it is a great counter against non-Blizzard Kyogre as well. Its moveset is an energy-efficient one, but not as powerful as Venusaur’s.

Other viable alternatives

 Pokémon Fast move Charge move
Zapdos Electric Flying Charge Beam Electric Thunderbolt Electric
Jolteon Electric Thunder Shock Electric Thunderbolt Electric
Latios Dragon Psychic Dragon Breath Dragon Solar Beam Grass
Groudon Ground Dragon Tail Dragon Solar Beam Grass
Kyogre Water Waterfall Water Thunder Electric
Ho-Oh Fire Flying Extrasensory Psychic Solar Beam Grass
Mewtwo Psychic Psycho Cut or Confusion Psychic Shadow Ball Ghost

Zapdos has a slightly higher attack stat than Raikou (but a worse moveset), and it performs well against non-Blizzard Kyogre. However, it takes neutral damage from Thunder, super effective damage from Blizzard and it doesn’t resist Hydro Pump either, unlike the other supreme grass type counters. It’s still a great counter from a DPS perspective but there are a couple of limiting factors that prevent it from being a supreme counter.

Jolteon is the non-legendary alternative to Raikou. Same typing and a similar moveset. Jolteon has a high attack stat, but its bulk is significantly lower than Raikou’s and it is indeed a glass cannon. If you have a high level one, you could try it out against Kyogre, as it will be able to deal some nice damage before fainting.

Latios is a strange pick. Yes, it does have a high attack stat and a good charge move that deals super effective damage, but its fast move deals neutral damage. If Kyogre has Blizzard, Latios is not a recommended pick, as there are better options. Furthermore, Solar Beam won’t benefit from STAB in this case. Use it only if you don’t have access to the other counters or if you really want to try it out.

Groudon is a similar case. It performs quite well when Kyogre has Thunder as it is able to double resist it, but there are other Pokémon such as Alolan Exeggutor who are also able to double resist that move while dealing super effective damage with both of their moves (and benefiting from the STAB bonus too). Against Blizzard, Groudon takes super effective damage too, but its great bulk will probably allow it to survive and not get OHKOed, and thus fire off a Solar Beam before fainting. Keep in mind that it will also take super effective damage from Waterfall!

Thunder Kyogre can be used against Blizzard, as it is able to resist it. However, Waterfall won’t be super effective as Kyogre resists it too. Furthermore, Thunder does not benefit from STAB, but it deals super effective damage. We generally recommend to use it if you don’t have better counters and if your Kyogre is at level 25 (weather-boosted raid catch) or higher.

Ho-Oh is a similar case to Groudon. The main advantage that it has is that it takes neutral damage from Blizzard, but it will take super effective damage from Hydro Pump and Thunder. Thus, if you want to use it, try to do it if Kyogre has Blizzard. Solar Beam won’t benefit from the STAB bonus and Ho-Oh’s attack stat might not be the highest one in this game, but it will deal a decent amount of damage nonetheless. Keep in mind that incoming Waterfalls will deal super effective damage too!

Finally, Mewtwo would be the best generalist option. It has the highest attack stat in the game and it does not take super effective damage from any of Kyogre’s moves, but it won’t deal super effective damage to Kyogre either. It is particularly good against Blizzard Kyogre, due to the fact that plenty of other counters faint pretty quickly while Mewtwo can generally tank a couple of hits and fire off a couple of charge moves in return to deal a nice amount of neutral damage.

Weather influence

Weather Pros Cons
Sunny Boosts super-effective Grass type moves
Partly Cloudy
Cloudy
Rainy Boosts its Water and Electric type moves Boosts super-effective Electric type moves
Fog
Windy
Snow Boosts its Ice type moves

Viability in raids

Kyogre is a very useful Pokémon to use in raids. In fact, it is so powerful that it can even be used efficiently as a generalist, while dealing neutral damage. The following list includes a compilation of the raids in which it is one of the top counters (low Tier raids have been excluded in an attempt to keep it shorter). If the raid boss is weak to water type moves, Kyogre is most probably going to be the best option by far. The only situation in which it could be outperformed is against a raid boss that is able to learn moves that counter Kyogre and not the other counters or when using it as a generalist (in comparison to the other specialists who deal super effective damage).

 Raid Boss Fast move to use Charge move to use
Piloswine Ice Ground Waterfall Water Hydro Pump Water
Shuckle Bug Rock Waterfall Water Hydro Pump Water
Golem Rock Ground* Waterfall Water Hydro Pump Water
Rhydon Ground Rock* Waterfall Water Hydro Pump Water
Houndoom Dark Fire Waterfall Water Hydro Pump Water
Moltres Fire Flying* Waterfall Water Hydro Pump Water
Entei Fire* Waterfall Water Hydro Pump Water
Ho-Oh Fire Flying* Waterfall Water Hydro Pump Water
Groudon Ground* Waterfall Water Hydro Pump Water
Kyogre Water Waterfall Water Thunder Electric
Regirock Rock** Waterfall Water Hydro Pump Water
Mewtwo Psychic Waterfall Water Hydro Pump Water

*Legacy raid boss **Potential future raid boss

Rating

Pokémon Kyogre Water
Attacker 5
Defender n/a
Generalist 4.5
Overall 4.5
Tier I

Kyogre is probably one of the best Pokémon in the game from an offensive point of view. It has a massive attack stat, paired up with a good moveset and great bulk. Its offensive power makes it even viable as a TOP-Tier generalist. Furthermore, it is able to learn different charge moves that make it more versatile if you want to use it for different purposes. The fact that Kyogre outperforms its rivals before reaching level 30 speaks for itself. If you don’t have a Kyogre yet, try to get one as fast as possible, as it is a wonderful Pokémon that will improve your offensive lineup for sure.