Best Pokemon to use Technical Machines (TMs) on

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Technical Machines are a fairly fairly rare Raid drop, making them very precious and important. We created a list of Pokemon that benefit the most when you re-roll their moves via a Fast or Charged TM.

Do note that some of these entries contain Legacy Moves, for example the hated Twister Gyarados. We’ve included a short explanation how we built this list and why some Pokemon are not included (example: Golem) after the chart.TIPS: bold marks a preferred move in a scenario where multiple move outcomes are possible. ⚠️ marks a move that should be replaced again, as it’s considered sub-optimal.

Pokemon that benefit the most from TM usage
Pokemon Move to replace Type Potential new moves
Tyranitar Fire Blast fire Charge Crunch dark Stone Edge rock
Dragonite Hyper Beam normal Charge Outrage dragon Hurricane flying
Snorlax Earthquake ground Charge Hyper Beam normal Heavy Slam steel
Rhydon Megahorn bug Charge Stone Edge rock Earthquake ground
  Gyarados Twister dragon Charge Hydro Pump water Outrage dragon Crunch dark
Donphan Tackle normal Fast Counter fighting
Machamp Bullet Punch steel Fast Counter fighting
Heavy Slam steel Charge Close Combat fighting Dynamic Punch fighting
Stone Edge rock Close Combat fighting Dynamic Punch fighting ⚠️ Heavy Slam steel
  Alakazam Focus Blast fighting Charge Futuresight psychic Shadow Ball ghost
Dazzling Gleam fairy Futuresight psychic Shadow Ball ghost ⚠️ Focus Blast fighting
Scizor Night Slash dark Charge X Scissor bug Iron Head steel
Omastar Mud Shot ground Fast Water Gun water
Gengar Focus Blast fighting Charge Shadow Ball ghost Sludge Bomb poison
Lapras Dragon Pulse dragon Charge Ice Beam ice Blizzard ice Hydro Pump water
Poliwrath Ice Punch ice Charge Dynamic Punch fighting Hydro Pump water

Discussion and more information

As you have probably observed, several high tier Pokemon are missing from the list, namely Golem, Espeon, Blissey and Exeggutor. The reasoning behind their removal is simple: their worst movesets do not benefit from TM usage as much as Pokemon listed above.

Any Pokemon you have can be improved with TMs, depending on the way you want to use it and it’s moveset, but that’s not an excuse to use a Charge TM on a Rock Blast Golem instead of using it on a Heavy Slam / Stone Edge Machamp. You will gain roughly 5% more damage on your Golem, but your Machamp could gain more than 25% more damage.

As far as other missing entries go, their moves are close enough in performance that we do not recommend using TMs on them (Espeon, Exeggutor) or their stats play a much bigger role than their moves (Blissey).

Why are there no Fire Types in the list?

Honestly, fire Pokemon have been constantly disappointing us ever since the game launched, both in term of availability and performance. There are almost no scenarios where we would recommend “fixing” your Fire Pokemon, mostly due to the following:

  • At this point in time, we expect almost every Pokemon GO player to have a half decent Flareon, which is the optimal fire type to use in Raids and Gym offense. Flareon can no longer obtain his worst charge move (Heat Wave) and you won’t gain a lot by fixing other moves.
  • Hybrids like Houndoom are good enough to replace all non-Flareon fire Pokemon.

Parting words

No parting words. Fix your Gyarados.

Credits: pololoco99

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15 COMMENTS

  1. I changed my Dragonite’s Hyperbeam with a TM because both Hurricane and Outrage have STAB and are faster so they are both better in attacking and defending in my opinion.

  2. I don’t agree with changing Hurricane for Dragonite, it has STAB damage, the one to change should be Hyperbeam

      • Yes but you will want to have Bite + Stone Edge for RAID battles XD (legendary’s)

        I am guessing this topic is about changing moves for RAID battles anyway,..

      • I dunno, wouldn’t an Iron Tail-Stone Edge Tyrannitar be effective against an all-ice Lapras?

  3. I’ll join the club that’s confused at changing hurricane to hyper beam. I will probably use a TM at some point on one of my hurricane dragonites, but if I get Hyper Beam I’ll reroll again.

  4. I don’t understand wanting to change Hurricane. Hyper Beam is the one you want to be rid of, since it doesn’t do Super Effective to anyone, and doesn’t have STAB. Hurricane destroys Machamp raids. While we’re at it, Steel Wing needs to go on Dragonite as well, along with Iron Tail on Tyranitar.

  5. Also why is Close Combat the preferred moveset to get on Machamp. From what I can tell Dynamic Punch is the one you want. It has a higher DPS.

  6. These really depends on if they’re Attacking or Defending. And also depends on their Fast Move too.

    Take this with a grain of salt….

  7. Who wrote this list ? Remove dragonite Hurrican for Hyper beam ? Alakazam and Gengar are also very good with focus blast, why reroll it ?
    Next time take more information first to write “Guide”.

  8. scizor best moves I have 2-bull pun/ x-sci, fury cut/ night slash , bull pun/ iron head. what to change & what to keep & what about golem what the best moves to keep for future

  9. There are 7 Pokemon that greatly benefit in the new meta due to raids. While the Pokemon in the raids may change, the typing should remain the same, keeping the 7 viable for as long as I can tell. They are, in no particular order:

    Machamp (most important) with Counter and Dynamic Punch.
    Jolteon with Thundershok and Thunderbolt
    Golem with Rock Throw and Stone Edge
    Exeggutor with Seed Bomb and Solar Beam
    Vaporeon with Water Gun and Hydro Pump
    Rhydon with Mud Slap and Earthquake
    Dragonite with Dragon Tail and Outrage (Strictly DPS, no type advantage)

    I would then go with Snorlax, Lapras, and Alakazam to get proper typing. Snorlax should be Zen Headbutt (Machamp counter) and Hyper Beam (if you don’t have Body Slam). Lapras should be Frost Breath and Blizzard (perfect counter). Alakazam should be Confusion and Futuresight. And don’t forget Steelix! You should have Iron Tail and Heavy Slam there.

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