Giratina (Origin Forme) Raid Counters Guide

Giratina Origin Forme

Giratina (Origin Forme) is a Tier 5 Raid Boss in Pokémon GO. The best Giratina Origin Forme counters are mostly the same as Altered Giratina, featuring strong Dragon, Dark, Ghost and Ice types, such as Rayquaza, Dragonite, Palkia, Gengar, Mewtwo, and Tyranitar. Giratina (Origin Form) has a Raid Boss CP of 41776, can be caught with the following CP Values:

  • 2018 – 2105 CP with no weather boost (Level 20)
  • 2523 – 2631 CP with Fog or Windy weather (Level 25)

The best-case scenario for Giratina (Origin Forme) is a very manageable duo with Best Friend Bonuses and full teams of Dragons with possibly Mamoswine or Gengar mixed in if needed. Ideally, use 3-6 high-level players, or 6+ lower leveled players when fighting this raid boss. This guide lists the best counters, forme stats, and which moves Giratina (Origin Forme) can have in Pokémon GO.


For our Simulator’s list of counters, check here. For a full Giratina IV chart, you can check here.

Origin Giratina counters

Giratina Raid Counters
Giratina (Origin)
WEAKNESS Dark Dragon Fairy Ghost Ice BOOSTED BY Windy Fog
Supreme Giratina Raid Counters
Houndoom (Mega) Snarl Dark Foul Play Dark
Mega Houndoom is a force against Giratina.  With a time to win over 120 seconds faster than Rayquaza, it does a ton of damage all on its own.  Coupled with the fact that it boosts the damage of other dark attackers on the field makes Houndoom the number one choice.
Rayquaza Dragon Tail Dragon Outrage Dragon
Rayquaza is a beast when used against either Forme of Giratina, as it exploits its weakness to Dragon-type attacks and deals insane amounts of damage in the shortest amount of time. Dragonite and Salamence are basically the same, just with slightly higher times and, in Salamence’s case, more faints.
Palkia Dragon Tail Dragon Draco MeteorDragon
Dragonite Dragon Tail Dragon Outrage Dragon
Salamence Dragon Tail Dragon Draco Meteor Dragon
Dialga Dragon Breath Dragon Draco MeteorDragon
Togekiss Charm Fairy Dazzling Gleam Fairy
Zekrom Dragon Breath Dragon Outrage Dragon
Darkrai Snark Dark Shadow Ball Ghost
Excellent Giratina Raid Counters
Tyranitar Bite Dark Crunch Dark
Tyranitar is slow, being 100+ seconds behind Rayquaza, but very efficient in terms of Potion usage. If you are potion poor and looking to still be useful in the raid, this is one of your best options.
Weavile Feint Attack Dark Avalanche Ice
Weavile is one of the few pure Ice-types that can be considered a top-tier counter as far as Ice-types are relevant, alongside Mamoswine. Interestingly enough, your fastest time will be with a mixed set, with an Ice-type charged move and a Dark-type fast move.
Mewtwo Psycho Cut Psychic Shadow Ball Ghost
Shadow Ball Mewtwo is a worthwhile pick whenever it can dole out Super Effective damage. It faints less than a Gengar but also does not have as low of a Time-to-Win due to Psycho Cut or Confusion not being Super Effective. Additionally, it can manage with Ice Beam, but keep in mind Shadow Ball is better.
Latios Dragon Breath Dragon Dragon ClawDragon
Mamoswine Powder Snow Ice Avalanche Ice
Mamoswine became, hands down, the best Ice-type in the game upon its release for Community Day. It is no surprise it would show up here as one of the best counters. Giratina does not have a double weakness to ice however, so even its power is dwarfed by other, more powerful, dragons.
Good Giratina Raid Counters
Time-to-Win rises considerably from here. These Pokémon are best kept to B-teams when weather is beneficial or when a large group is active.
Honchkrow Snarl Dark Dark Pulse Dark
Gengar Lick or Shadow Claw Ghost Shadow Ball Ghost
Gengar is the first non-dragon to get a mention It is a fantastic Glass Cannon pick, with either its legacy Shadow Claw fast move, or its Gengar Day Exclusive, Lick. It will faint a lot, but the damage will be worth it.
Latias Dragon Claw Dragon Outrage Dragon
Giratina (Origin) Shadow Claw Ghost Shadow Ball Ghost
Houndoom Feint Attack Dark Foul Play Dark
Rampardos Smack Down Rock Outrage Dragon

Weather Effects

Giratina will be boosted by Fog and Windy weather, while being more vulnerable in Fog, Windy, Cloudy, and Snow.

Weather Pro Con
Windy Allows a Level 25 Encounter from Weather Boost. Boosts Dragon attackers. Boosts Giratina’s Dragon Tail and Dragon Pulse
Partly Cloudy
Cloudy Boosts Fairy attackers
Snow Boosts Ice attackers
Fog Allows a Level 25 Encounter from Weather Boost. Boosts Ghost and Dark attackers. Boosts Giratina’s Shadow Claw, Shadow Ball, and Ominous Wind

Giratina’s Raid Moves and Stats Analysis

Giratina (Origin Forme) is a Ghost Dragon type that has the following stats:

Giratina (Origin) GhostDragon
Max CP 3683
ATK 225 DEF 187 HP 284
Weak to Strong Against
Dark Dragon Fairy Ghost Ice Ghost Psychic Dragon

Giratina (Origin Forme) can have the following move sets in a raid battle and when captured:

Fast Moves Charge Moves DPS TDO
Shadow Claw Ghost Shadow Ball Ghost 14.54 1035.27
Dragon Tail Dragon Shadow Ball Ghost 14.09 1003.71
Shadow Claw Ghost Dragon Pulse Dragon 12.85 915.06
Dragon Tail Dragon Dragon Pulse Dragon 12.48 888.89
Shadow Claw Ghost Ominous Wind Ghost 12.10 861.61
Dragon Tail Dragon Ominous Wind Ghost 11.75 836.67

*DPS and TDO are calculated using Level 40 Pokemon with perfect IVs and a 200 DEF defender model. The values displayed here should be compared only among themselves and represent DPS and TDO approximations.

Now, what actually makes Giratina (Origin Forme) that much different from the Altered Forme?

  • Shadow Claw/Shadow Ball being available to the Origin Forme gives it access to the best Ghost-type moveset in the game.
  • Origin Forme also has access to the Fast Move: Dragon Tail and the Charge Moves: Dragon Pulse and Ominous Wind.
  • Origin Forme and Altered Forme, in the game, swap their attack and defence stats, making Origin Forme attack based, and Altered Forme defence based. This means that Origin Forme will hit harder but be defeated faster.
  • A duo that would have been difficult before with Altered Forme is now entirely easy with Origin Forme, even before factoring in weather and friendship bonuses. Which in turn means that it is a simply easier fight. You do not need as many people with Origin Forme as you did with Altered Forme.
  • It will hit harder, and you may see more faints. However, the effect is minimal as far as simulations go. You will only see these results when using your glass cannons like Gengar and Banette.
  • Origin Forme will be your go-to forme to use if Giratina ever gets an exclusive move. Altered Giratina, even with something exclusive, would not see as wide usage as an Origin Forme would.

Giratina (Origin Forme) TTW Chart

Pokémon Fast Move Charge Move TTW Deaths
Mega Houndoom Snarl Foul Play 424.1s 7
Rayquaza Dragon Tail Outrage 549.5s 15
Togekiss Charm Dazzling Gleam 589.6s 9
Garchomp Dragon Tail Outrage 622.1s 26
Palkia Dragon Tail Draco Meteor 608.9s 28
Dragonite Dragon Breath Outrage 618.4s 27
Salamence Dragon Tail Draco Meteor 606.9s 30
Tyranitar Bite Crunch 732.0s 20
Weavile Feint Attack Avalanche 676.0s 26
Mewtwo Psycho Cut Shadow Ball 647.8s 32
Latios Dragon Breath Dragon Claw 633.7s 35
Mamoswine Powder Snow Avalanche 691.3s 31
Glaceon Frost Breath Avalanche 701.1s 32
Honchkrow Snarl Dark Pulse 738.0s 34
Gengar Lick Shadow Ball 621.5s 47
Latias Dragon Breath Outrage 724.1s 37
Giratina Shadow Claw Shadow Ball 754.1s 33
Houndoom Snarl Foul Play 766.3s 32
Rampardos Smack Down Outrage 717.2s 39
Ursaring Shadow Claw Play Rough 812.9s 26
Absol Snarl Dark Pulse 748.9s 39