The recent Ho-Oh rumor was debunked by an official Niantic Support representative on reddit. We’ve already warned our readers in advance that this rumor could be false, but it’s now official.

For those who did not read the original article, a redditor posted a screenshot of an e-mail allegedly sent out by the Japanese Pokémon GO Support stating the following:

  • Mewtwo EX Raid tests are over in Japan
  • Ho-Oh will start appearing as an EX raid boss in December!

In response, Niantic George shared the following (link):

“I reviewed our support ticketing system and I can confirm that our support team did not send this erroneous message.”

We’re glad to see this, as it gives more Trainers the opportunity to catch a Mewtwo in 2017. With today’s confirmation that Gen III is the next major content update, we expect Ho-Oh to be available as an EX Raid boss once the EX Raid system goes fully live.

At this time, we have no information on when / if the next batch of EX Raid testing will take place.

  • Josh Hack

    We Don’t All Have MewTwo, Only Like 0.00001% Do. So, Remind Me Why We Need Gen 3 And HoOH Again?

    • Edwin Fung

      Hi Josh Hack. It’s the same for me. Ex raids are not great at all. Unfortunately rural players can’t participate in this kind of raid.

      • Chris Denton

        Yes, you can get invited. It’s a pita but it can be done. Mewtwo was my first legendary. I raided one time at the gym it was held at and low and behold I got an invite and about 50 people showed up. That’s how I found the discord group. As far as I can tell you have to get invited to the group and can’t just search and join.

        I had to raid in the nearest city but it can be done if you put in the time and effort. That is a problem, but I don’t see niantic course correcting away from Pokémon social/city. Good luck!

        Btw you can block all the people who give you grief on the site.

        • Edwin Fung

          Yeah I want to block 2 people who were stalking me.

          • Chris Denton

            You can. Don’t take anything too personal on the internet, though. This place is full of negativity.

            Edit: you need to visit the profile you want to block and it’s under the name

          • Edwin Fung

            These (spam, harassing people, pointless provocation) have to be expected as it is an ‘opened’ discussion.

          • Chris Denton

            The game actually works for people in cities and those people do not understand what we go through. They just want more content and I can’t blame them but the game needs so much more than another pile of Pokémon. There needs to be a way to train for candies and the buddy system is just a slap in the face. 20km for 1 mewtwo candy is ridiculous. 5km for 1 dratini candy is just as absurd. I have never seen or caught dratini in the wild.

    • Dan

      Following this line of thinking, why do we need any new content?

      • Josh Hack

        What My Point Is That This Grand EX MewTwo System Isn’t Out Yet, Even After A Month. Why Should We Expect New Stuff If Only 30k People Out Of 65 Million Players Have One?

        • Edwin Fung

          Josh Hack, I feel like the Pokemon GO community is terrible. I’ve been tagged by ‘Nick’ and ‘Curtis Beales’ just now. You should ignore anyone you don’t know. (I’m Yoshi)

          • Josh Hack

            Interesting How We Have The Same Views And They Get The Same Reactions Even When We Aren’t On The Forum

          • Edwin Fung

            Did you take a look at the interview report of John Hanke? I’ve debated with them under the report and I feel incredibly annoying!

            Well. They were successfully flagged my comment as inappropriate even though I didn’t swear.

          • Josh Hack

            They Took That Idea Way To Seriously, Arguing Like That Over A Suggestion.

          • Edwin Fung

            I’ve urged them to stop the debate, but they didn’t listen to me.
            In my opinion, they may dislike my idea.There’re no need to point out my mistake.

          • Edwin Fung

            Excuse me, what have I offended you ‘GO Hub’? Why are you ‘GO Hub’ prejudiced against me and show your attitude by removing my comment? What’s wrong with me? I am not a stubborn person. I may edit my comment and admit my fault. (This is my true words) I’ll be absolutely thankful if you ‘GO Hub’ leave me alone.😭

          • Chris Denton

            It’s not go hub. It has to do with editing your comment after you post. The best way I have found is to proof read before you hit post.

            I still have pending comments from 3 months ago, that’s on go hub, but they are irrelevant now.

            I also like to go back through and fix my grammatical errors, but that’s what flags the comment, not go hub.

          • Edwin Fung

            Thx for your support. However I’m able to edit my comment which has got grammatical mistake. Also, my comment was not flagged immediately but adter a few minutes. It says ‘Hold on, it needs to be approved by GO Hub’. Apparently GO Hub knows about it. Until now 3 of my comments were flagged and all of them were removed. (same as the black pop-up notification in Pokemon GO)

          • Chris Denton

            It’s no problem. I just wonder what it’s says it was flagged for. Mine always said detected as spam and eventually the option to select “this is not spam” was removed and all it said was “we’re working on getting this fixed”.

            Remember that go hub is not a big company and the people they do have are just people. They are most likely not conspiring against your comments and there’s an even better chance they agree there’s a clear lack of content in the game.

          • awlagfare

            duuuuuudeee really. You are acting like a kid who does not get what he wants. stop embarrassing yourself.

          • Chris Denton

            Theres no point in being hateful to people you do not know. We all have similar interests and being hateful just because you are online is getting old.

        • Dan

          Because it’s still in beta test. I would much rather they get it right than push it out and have to take it back entirely.

    • arsu

      Are you serious about why do we need gen 3? lmao

    • Chris Denton

      Mewtwo should be so common that everyone has one? I think not.

      I also think those lucky enough to get an invite(me), should only be able to catch 1. Same with all legendaries but niantic doesn’t think before they act.

      Also, why put capital letters on every word in a sentence? Makes it hard to read 😉

      • Josh Hack

        My Phone Just Does This And I Cannot Stop It

        • Chris Denton

          Oh, I understand. Happy catching, josh!

      • Chief Chad

        Nah

        • Chris Denton

          Ok

  • Jayden Plays Pokemon GO

    Niantics gotta set there game up properly. If they are testing one thing, they release it next. Not some other big project! ITS EITHER QT 4 OR ALMOST AND WE WANT PVP NEW GENS TRADING ETC ETC BUT THEY DO A MILLION DIFFERENT THINGS AT ONCE NOT ALLOWING US TO HAVE SOME FOCUS! It’s raid raid raid for a pass but they say gen3 is coming so we start saving balls and berries then we ALL think of trading and save a million rare Pokémon like regionals legendaries etc and there like, let’s work on something new and abandon this old project!

    • Chris Denton

      I didn’t read your comment but I just wanted to say, caps lock does not have the effect you are after, it’s what caused me to not read your comment.

      • Partysaurus Rex

        I’ll never understand why people get so offended by *gasp* capital letters!

        • Chris Denton

          You don’t have to understand, lol. *gasp*

          Where did you get that I’m offended? From a basic suggestion?

          Not only offended, “so offended”, lol.

          • Partysaurus Rex
          • Chris Denton

            I made a suggestion dude. Under your own logic(flawed), you are offended by me making a suggestion.

            When used correctly, a meme can be quite clever.

          • Partysaurus Rex

            Less is more. I don’t know who appointed you spokesperson for the HUB. But I can tell you that very little of what you post is worth anything. Your suggestions aren’t appreciated. Yet you feel the need to respond to every person. I’m just glad there is no moderation here so you can’t run to Thorend to create your little safe place for you and your buddies that think every vapid thought needs its own space on the internet. It doesn’t.

          • Chris Denton

            Thanks for the insults, big guy.

            You should learn how to properly direct your anger. I’ve done nothing to deserve it.

          • Partysaurus Rex

            That you know of. Trust me. You’ve done plenty. But your spam is sufficient enough cause to warrant a little snarky commentary. Anger… LOL hardly. Pleasantly peeved.

            https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/2ccb89cdbc5afa47e509ed4a718c8713b641363b736a81c6d7cd65c065a760c9.gif

          • Edwin Fung

            You see? This is the way how people insult me!

          • Chris Denton

            Yeah it’s unfortunate but I blocked that dude as soon as he insulted me. Means nothing to me and I’m probably better off not seeing his negativity.

          • Partysaurus Rex

            You’re probably better off not treating this place like your own personal blog. If you didn’t take the time to type every stupid thought that comes to mind, you’d probably have less people “insulting” you. Though if you also had less of a victim complex you’d probably recognize that it is warranted.

          • Partysaurus Rex

            That’s because you also are about as obtuse as they come. Please go back to spamming the forums where Thorend and the other like minded fools can coddle you and your spam. Not every fleeting thought of yours requires a post. Just because said post gets ignored, doesn’t mean it needs to have a new thread created for it either. You’d get the attention you are craving if you simply put more thought and care into what your write. As I told your pal… less is more.

      • Jayden Plays Pokemon GO

        Lol

  • Orkfang Warblade

    I’m a little tired of feeling like I have to raid to fill my Pokedex. I have Mewtwo, Let’s give it to the rest of the world, and North America, that was not included in the tests. I don’t like the EX system, I don’t pretend know what would be better. I like the legendary raids, but I can only raid so long before I am worn out. Looking forward to the Halloween event. Glad Ho-Oh is not coming out right away. Maybe test him south of the equator during the winter. We have a great community in Greenwood, Indiana. I love Pokemon Go.

  • Chief Chad

    Over here raiding (225+) still waiting on that Mewtwo invite…

    • Chris Denton

      Nah

  • Partysaurus Rex

    “With today’s confirmation that Gen III is the next major content update, we expect Ho-Oh to be available as an EX Raid boss once the EX Raid system goes fully live.”

    I just love the wishful thinking here on the HUB.

    The confirmation of Gen III and the statement from Hanke literally said NOTHING about EX Raids… so your “expectation” is just pure speculation. Top notch reporting guys! Getting worse as the months drag on.

    • Chris Denton

      Go hub reports on announcements that niantic makes and data in the master file. Would you rather no articles between official announcements?

      You are not on cnn or any of those other “news” sites.

      The headline is literally “ho-oh rumor debunked by niantic official”

      It’s your own fault if you take an obvious opinion as fact or “reporting”.

      • Partysaurus Rex

        I’d rather articles be based in fact. The anecdotal opinions that have no basis in reality are not appreciated. I don’t come here for fiction. I come here for news. For the most part (in the past) the HUB has done a good job of scouring the internet to find and substantiate rumors, leaks, etc. As those have become more scarce, the HUB has resorted to fabricating news/problems.

        The rumor is/was that: Ho-Oh would be the first pokemon on rotation when EX Raid system goes live in December, after the 3 sacred legendary animals (Entei, Suicune, Raikou) ended in November.

        So then HUB writes an article based on a response they got from a support ticket (which if you’ve dealt with Niantic support… isn’t exactly reliable) that completely debunks that rumor. But then in the same article… you (the HUB) still believes that Ho-Oh will still be released with the EX system.

        So then from that the HUB concludes that the only part of the rumor that wasn’t true was that its coming out in December? I personally would just love to know where they got the information that Ho-Oh is definitively going to be part of the EX Raid system… they seem fairly confident/certain on that point.

        Even a good position piece can point to where they got to their conclusions even if turns out to be wrong.

  • Joe1407

    Why would they release “Ho oh” or any gen 2 or 3 with out completing Gen 1? Where is “MEW” I have not heard any thing about this one. There is to much about Gen 3 & 4 and there no rime or reason to there releases. Over a year and still have not completed Gen 1.

    • Chanderule

      Its a goddamn mythical

  • Chris Denton

    Will gen 3/ex raids fix the lack of spawns away from stops? I still don’t know how I’m supposed to find the only nidoran on my nearby list.

  • 이석진

    Excuse me. Do mewtwo ex raid again?

  • Vlad Neagu

    We still miss mew and celebi and let’s not forget that the gen 2 isn’t completely out ffs. My question is WHY? WHY realease ho oh as an ex raid? WHY not release a gen completely from the first day? WHY do we have regional pokemons? WHY does IV have to exist?

    • Chris Denton

      This game has more to do with ingress than Pokémon. That’s why social crap comes first and that’s why the game is unplayable out of a city.

      As for your question: the answer is a simple one word answer, Niantic.

      • Vlad Neagu

        that’s bullshit, this doesn’t even feel as a pokemon game, OH AND WHY DO THE BOYS HAVE CRAPPY HATS WTF IS WRONG WITH THIS COMPANY. LITTERALY EVERY PROTAGONIST HAS A NORMAL CAP

        • Chris Denton

          It’s not a Pokémon game it’s ingress 1.1
          We were all tricked and mislead into this game under the guise that more Pokémon features were coming, it was just in beta. That was the lie niantic has not been held responsible for.

          I couldn’t care less about what my trainer looks like. I wish I could customize my Pokémon with outfits but then what content would niantic release if we could make our own pikachu with a hat.

          The pants are what really set me off. What straight guy wears capris? And why are long socks compression sleeves for your knees? That’s a non issue really, though. Lol

          Everything niantic does is a half assed attempt.

          I just want a port of fire red, if niantic wants to continue their ignorance.

    • Chanderule

      1. Mew and Celebi are mythicals, they wont be easily obtainable
      2. THE ARTICLE IS ABOUT HO-OH GETTING DEBUNKED FOR GOD’S SAKE
      3. Delibird is still saved for christmas, and Ho-oh is for EX Raids
      4. To have at least some differences between countries? Oh god why cant I find a wild elephant in europe!
      5. So that not every pokemon is the same?

  • Nick Wilson

    Its just a game guys. I want gen 3. And a mewtwo I’m not trippin. Bring on the new content